Comments on: Creating Better Names for the Ubuntus http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/ Keeping you in the loop with up-to-date Linux news. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:58:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: InTheLoop http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/comment-page-1/#comment-926 InTheLoop Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:50:19 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/#comment-926 Kellito - I think there are two reasons why paying attention to the Windows world is important. First, the majority of users still run Windows and if Linux is ever going to grow it will need to pull users from Windows. That will never happen if we totally ignore Windows and its users. (If Linux should grow is a different question and a whole different article, but I believe it should and I think most people agree.) Second, if we know what mistakes other people (in this case Microsoft) made, we can avoid those mistakes. Kellito - I think there are two reasons why paying attention to the Windows world is important. First, the majority of users still run Windows and if Linux is ever going to grow it will need to pull users from Windows. That will never happen if we totally ignore Windows and its users. (If Linux should grow is a different question and a whole different article, but I believe it should and I think most people agree.) Second, if we know what mistakes other people (in this case Microsoft) made, we can avoid those mistakes.

]]> By: Kellito http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/comment-page-1/#comment-910 Kellito Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:54:30 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/#comment-910 Why do people note about confusion for someone who is coming from a Vista World? Think New Horizons, New Opportunities. Stop trailing behind Microsoft, just let us ignore it. Let us do what we (the Open Source COmmunity) think is right and not what would affect Vista users. At the end we will prevail. Eventually. So why hinder ourselves in fear that MS users would be confused? New naming convention will help the marketing of overall Ubuntu family greatly as well as make KDE and XFCE more available to new users. People who don't know what KDE and XFCE are would gain an opportunity to try them out. Now they don't have this opportunity because kubuntu and xubuntu names are plain horrible marketingwise and really geeky. Some people suggested it would not be easy to change the xubuntu name because it is a separate community project. Wrong. Because in the end, people behind xubuntu have common sence too. They were forced to call it like this in the first place because kubuntu was already in place. Why do people note about confusion for someone who is coming from a Vista World?

Think New Horizons, New Opportunities. Stop trailing behind Microsoft, just let us ignore it. Let us do what we (the Open Source COmmunity) think is right and not what would affect Vista users.

At the end we will prevail. Eventually. So why hinder ourselves in fear that MS users would be confused?

New naming convention will help the marketing of overall Ubuntu family greatly as well as make KDE and XFCE more available to new users. People who don’t know what KDE and XFCE are would gain an opportunity to try them out. Now they don’t have this opportunity because kubuntu and xubuntu names are plain horrible marketingwise and really geeky.

Some people suggested it would not be easy to change the xubuntu name because it is a separate community project. Wrong. Because in the end, people behind xubuntu have common sence too. They were forced to call it like this in the first place because kubuntu was already in place.

]]> By: InTheLoop http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/comment-page-1/#comment-899 InTheLoop Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:05:52 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/#comment-899 mario - The problem is that people outside the Linux community have no clue what xfce and kde are. Also, I don't think it will hurt KDE's brand too much because anyone that is interested could still easily figure out that Ubuntu something uses KDE. mario - The problem is that people outside the Linux community have no clue what xfce and kde are. Also, I don’t think it will hurt KDE’s brand too much because anyone that is interested could still easily figure out that Ubuntu something uses KDE.

]]> By: mario http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/comment-page-1/#comment-898 mario Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:50:18 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/#comment-898 Nice thoughts. However, the XFCE point is somewhat moot. People that want / might need to use it, probably already know about XFCE. (Btw, I've started with Ubuntu and just added XFCE as default WM/desktop environment.) Likewise I wouldn't say it's such a good idea to add another buzz title atop "KDE". Using any other name for the KDE edition, would sort of belittle their brand name. (Albeit that's the current situation with just calling it "KUbuntu". - So, how about pissing of Stallmann with KDE/Ubuntu? *giggle*) Nice thoughts. However, the XFCE point is somewhat moot. People that want / might need to use it, probably already know about XFCE. (Btw, I’ve started with Ubuntu and just added XFCE as default WM/desktop environment.)

Likewise I wouldn’t say it’s such a good idea to add another buzz title atop “KDE”. Using any other name for the KDE edition, would sort of belittle their brand name. (Albeit that’s the current situation with just calling it “KUbuntu”. - So, how about pissing of Stallmann with KDE/Ubuntu? *giggle*)

]]> By: InTheLoop http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/comment-page-1/#comment-881 InTheLoop Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:18:09 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/#comment-881 I know. Last time I looked at Xubuntu (which was a long time ago) they were mostly advertising it as a distro for old computers. I just looked again and they have changed that, so sorry. Still, I think most people would choose Xubuntu for it being good on old computers, so I think calling it a distro for older hardware is fairish. I know. Last time I looked at Xubuntu (which was a long time ago) they were mostly advertising it as a distro for old computers. I just looked again and they have changed that, so sorry.

Still, I think most people would choose Xubuntu for it being good on old computers, so I think calling it a distro for older hardware is fairish.

]]> By: churchyard http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/comment-page-1/#comment-877 churchyard Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:40:02 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2008/01/21/creating-better-names-for-the-ubuntus/#comment-877 Xfce is NOT a environment for old computers. It hasn't got so big HW exigencies, so it is useful on old HW, but it is fully featured desktop environment. Xfce is NOT a environment for old computers. It hasn’t got so big HW exigencies, so it is useful on old HW, but it is fully featured desktop environment.

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