Comments on: Even the Sales People Don’t Like Vista http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/ Keeping you in the loop with up-to-date Linux news. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:26:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Linux News from Linux Loop » Blog Archive » Keeping Microsoft’s Marketing Out of Eee PC Sales http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-3117 Linux News from Linux Loop » Blog Archive » Keeping Microsoft’s Marketing Out of Eee PC Sales Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:48:46 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-3117 [...] In most circumstances, the sales person would basically tell you that Windows is better (although not always) and that would be the end of it. To prevent this from happening, however, I propose Asus create a [...] [...] In most circumstances, the sales person would basically tell you that Windows is better (although not always) and that would be the end of it. To prevent this from happening, however, I propose Asus create a [...]

]]> By: Bob Robertson http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-325 Bob Robertson Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:50:43 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-325 Games still drive sales. I put together a Linux system for an acquaintance, who gave it to his son. 2 months later, he wiped it off and put WinXP on it because Linux wouldn't run Guitar Hero. (or at least he couldn't make it run and didn't ask me to try.) It's not that Linux systems need to support better eye-candy, because everything that Vista was _supposed_ to do when it was first announced, Linux already has. Nothing on the 'Net cannot be viewed/used/worked on a Linux system just as well as on Windows. Sure, there are legacy applications, but those who depend upon legacy applications are also depending upon "legacy" versions of Windows because they work that way, rather than being porting nightmares trying to make them work on Vista. If makers of such games as Guitar Hero would release for Linux/OpenGL, and you and I know they could if they wanted to, that would be the bitter end of Microsoft in the home. Sadly, big business is a bureaucracy. The paltry sums they spend on Microsoft products, even if it seems astronomically expensive to you and I, give them peace of mind. Small businesses, however, are very ripe for the cost savings in hardware and software that Linux promotes. Robert Pogson, don't retire! Come up with a SMB server-on-a-bootable-CD/DVD and make a fortune. Then, hire one or two good support people and let them do all work. :^) Games still drive sales. I put together a Linux system for an acquaintance, who gave it to his son. 2 months later, he wiped it off and put WinXP on it because Linux wouldn’t run Guitar Hero. (or at least he couldn’t make it run and didn’t ask me to try.)

It’s not that Linux systems need to support better eye-candy, because everything that Vista was _supposed_ to do when it was first announced, Linux already has.

Nothing on the ‘Net cannot be viewed/used/worked on a Linux system just as well as on Windows. Sure, there are legacy applications, but those who depend upon legacy applications are also depending upon “legacy” versions of Windows because they work that way, rather than being porting nightmares trying to make them work on Vista.

If makers of such games as Guitar Hero would release for Linux/OpenGL, and you and I know they could if they wanted to, that would be the bitter end of Microsoft in the home.

Sadly, big business is a bureaucracy. The paltry sums they spend on Microsoft products, even if it seems astronomically expensive to you and I, give them peace of mind.

Small businesses, however, are very ripe for the cost savings in hardware and software that Linux promotes. Robert Pogson, don’t retire! Come up with a SMB server-on-a-bootable-CD/DVD and make a fortune. Then, hire one or two good support people and let them do all work. :^)

]]> By: Volodymyr M. Lisivka http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-305 Volodymyr M. Lisivka Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:31:33 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-305 Microsoft Windows Vista is not designed to running well on cheap PC and laptops. It designed to walking well on any PC. Microsoft Windows Vista is not designed to running well on cheap PC and laptops. It designed to walking well on any PC.

]]> By: Howdy http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-303 Howdy Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:27:31 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-303 I have technical support function and dislike Vista. My own OS is Ubuntu Linux. Still waiting for the first good news about Vista. I have technical support function and dislike Vista. My own OS is Ubuntu Linux. Still waiting for the first good news about Vista.

]]> By: Bob Purinton http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-302 Bob Purinton Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:05:41 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-302 I feel that Vista is the shot-in-the-arm that linux needs to advance itself in the world market. That Microsoft is engineering its own demise appears to be the plan with this OS. Well, that may be a little extreme but one wonders. I feel that Vista is the shot-in-the-arm that linux needs to advance itself in the world market. That Microsoft is engineering its own demise appears to be the plan with this OS. Well, that may be a little extreme but one wonders.

]]> By: Miran Osabnik http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-300 Miran Osabnik Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:15:08 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-300 I think, in quite some time that is, more and more people will realise that linux systems work just as good (much better) as MS systems and shall swith to os like fedora, centos, ubuntu... at home, while the companies that need secure and reliable servers already use linux more than other systems. Ofcourse there are the home yousers, guys that play games and simillar activites will take longer to learn that linux can offer them just as much as ms, if not eaven more. So i think that linux users must talk about their positive experience with linux, wite about this on their blogs, spread the word. Microsoft is a company that works for profit and doesnt care about quality and end user satisfaction, and more poeple that realise this, closer linux is to taking over the markets, But thats just my opinion, ciao I think, in quite some time that is, more and more people will realise that linux systems work just as good (much better) as MS systems and shall swith to os like fedora, centos, ubuntu… at home, while the companies that need secure and reliable servers already use linux more than other systems. Ofcourse there are the home yousers, guys that play games and simillar activites will take longer to learn that linux can offer them just as much as ms, if not eaven more. So i think that linux users must talk about their positive experience with linux, wite about this on their blogs, spread the word. Microsoft is a company that works for profit and doesnt care about quality and end user satisfaction, and more poeple that realise this, closer linux is to taking over the markets, But thats just my opinion,

ciao

]]> By: Duncan http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-299 Duncan Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:11:10 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-299 PCWorld currently has its annual predictions story running. One of the predictions is that MS will stay XP's execution another six months, to the end of 2008. Given the flourishing low end market typified by the eeepc and gpc as JB already mentioned, and the fact that I've already seen the tech press pointing out that MS is pushing a just about expired eXPrivacy solution for these things, my reaction was "Another six months? That's a pretty safe bet. I'd give it 18 months anyway, to the end of 2009, at which point the march of technology combined with a scrambling MS just /might/ have something other than eXPrivacy to offer on these things." It'll probably still be a rebadged eXPrivacy, but it'll be enough different to allow MS to officially kill eXPrivacy... but not before 2Q2009 at the earliest. That's a bolder prediction, but I think more likely, altho the end-year 2008 prediction might be an interim step. Duncan PCWorld currently has its annual predictions story running. One of the predictions is that MS will stay XP’s execution another six months, to the end of 2008.

Given the flourishing low end market typified by the eeepc and gpc as JB already mentioned, and the fact that I’ve already seen the tech press pointing out that MS is pushing a just about expired eXPrivacy solution for these things, my reaction was “Another six months? That’s a pretty safe bet. I’d give it 18 months anyway, to the end of 2009, at which point the march of technology combined with a scrambling MS just /might/ have something other than eXPrivacy to offer on these things.” It’ll probably still be a rebadged eXPrivacy, but it’ll be enough different to allow MS to officially kill eXPrivacy… but not before 2Q2009 at the earliest. That’s a bolder prediction, but I think more likely, altho the end-year 2008 prediction might be an interim step.

Duncan

]]> By: frnz http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-297 frnz Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:31:05 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-297 Actually deadline should have been shifted to december Actually deadline should have been shifted to december

]]> By: John Bailey http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-296 John Bailey Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:22:30 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-296 Xp got a stay of execution last year, so it is supposed to disappear from the shelves by July I think.. Unless the powers that be decide that they need to have t available a bit longer :-) One thing that could force Microsoft's hand is if the cheap PC market flourishes. Products like the Eee and the gOS running walmart PC might run Vista, but run and run well are two different things. Xp got a stay of execution last year, so it is supposed to disappear from the shelves by July I think.. Unless the powers that be decide that they need to have t available a bit longer :-)

One thing that could force Microsoft’s hand is if the cheap PC market flourishes. Products like the Eee and the gOS running walmart PC might run Vista, but run and run well are two different things.

]]> By: Robert Pogson http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-294 Robert Pogson Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:15:46 +0000 http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2007/12/27/even-the-sales-people-dont-like-vista/#comment-294 I was planning to retire this year but if there are 100 million Vista machines that need a good OS, I might stick around and install Debian for a couple of years. February 2008... Did not M$ extend the deadline to June? I was planning to retire this year but if there are 100 million Vista machines that need a good OS, I might stick around and install Debian for a couple of years.

February 2008… Did not M$ extend the deadline to June?

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