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	<title>Comments on: Appcelerator Titanium: Like AIR, But Better</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Syrett</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1920</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Syrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also, I wouldn&#039;t call AIR a &quot;closed&quot; system.  You get the full source of the framework, you can debug through it in Flex Builder, and I think you can get the source for Flash Player as well....that&#039;s open enough for me.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also, I wouldn&#8217;t call AIR a &#8220;closed&#8221; system.  You get the full source of the framework, you can debug through it in Flex Builder, and I think you can get the source for Flash Player as well&#8230;.that&#8217;s open enough for me&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Syrett</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1919</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Syrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AIR still sounds like a more powerful platform than Appcelerator, simply because of ActionScript which is a fully-featured OO language with a complete development environment to go with it. We simply wouldn&#039;t be able to do most of the things we do in Flex with a mix of HTML and JavaScript.  For that reason I&#039;m really struggling to see a selling point for Appcelerator, apart from somebody wanting to port an existing web app to the desktop very quickly.  I can&#039;t believe anyone starting on a new app would choose such dated technologies as HTML and JavaScript over Flex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIR still sounds like a more powerful platform than Appcelerator, simply because of ActionScript which is a fully-featured OO language with a complete development environment to go with it. We simply wouldn&#8217;t be able to do most of the things we do in Flex with a mix of HTML and JavaScript.  For that reason I&#8217;m really struggling to see a selling point for Appcelerator, apart from somebody wanting to port an existing web app to the desktop very quickly.  I can&#8217;t believe anyone starting on a new app would choose such dated technologies as HTML and JavaScript over Flex.</p>
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		<title>By: InTheLoop</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1918</link>
		<dc:creator>InTheLoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I will not be taking anything from Appcelerator, although I do appreciate the offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I will not be taking anything from Appcelerator, although I do appreciate the offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Cape</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1908</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor Cape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if any of you guys have any feedback or comments about Appcelerator, feel free to post and discuss on www.appcelefeedback.blog.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if any of you guys have any feedback or comments about Appcelerator, feel free to post and discuss on <a href="http://www.appcelefeedback.blog.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.appcelefeedback.blog.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Cape</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1913</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor Cape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, my name is Trevor, I am with Appcelerator and i read the article. I along with Appcelerator would like to thank you for taking the time to write about our open source platform. As a thank you, we would like to send you some cool Appcelerator swag, including a shirt and a wrist bad. It would be great if you could send me your mailing address and i will have the swag sent to you. Thank you and keep on talking about Appcelerator and Titanium! Have a great holiday season as well.

Trevor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, my name is Trevor, I am with Appcelerator and i read the article. I along with Appcelerator would like to thank you for taking the time to write about our open source platform. As a thank you, we would like to send you some cool Appcelerator swag, including a shirt and a wrist bad. It would be great if you could send me your mailing address and i will have the swag sent to you. Thank you and keep on talking about Appcelerator and Titanium! Have a great holiday season as well.</p>
<p>Trevor</p>
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		<title>By: InTheLoop</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1911</link>
		<dc:creator>InTheLoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florian - What does this have to do with security? The issue is if you want to allow Adobe to decide how well Linux is supported, what features will be offered, if the standards for writing applications will continue to be freely available, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florian &#8211; What does this have to do with security? The issue is if you want to allow Adobe to decide how well Linux is supported, what features will be offered, if the standards for writing applications will continue to be freely available, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: wondair</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1910</link>
		<dc:creator>wondair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;ve downloaded Appcelerator Titanium. I tried out the demo applications and faced several issues especially with the Contact Manager. At first I thought that there was a compatibility bug with my Windows XP system. Then I tried it on another machine without luck. The result is that I have no confidence in it. I believe that Appcelerator Titanium is too immature to develop productive applications for this platform. My first experiences with Adobe AIR are much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;ve downloaded Appcelerator Titanium. I tried out the demo applications and faced several issues especially with the Contact Manager. At first I thought that there was a compatibility bug with my Windows XP system. Then I tried it on another machine without luck. The result is that I have no confidence in it. I believe that Appcelerator Titanium is too immature to develop productive applications for this platform. My first experiences with Adobe AIR are much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1909</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Like Adobe AIR, though, you don’t need an internet connection to run Titanium applications&quot; - AIR is a RIA Plattform. Internet is included but - u don&#039;t have to be connected as well... just for updated and for several tasks Titanium will need a connection as well.

&quot;[...]would be a far superior option, since it would not take us down a route of closed systems[...]&quot; The security system in air and the sandboxes are there for a reason. Where&#039;s the sense in hoping for security when plattforms like Titanium open the doors to the system?

Sorry... i don&#039;t see any point in what should make A.T. a better option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like Adobe AIR, though, you don’t need an internet connection to run Titanium applications&#8221; &#8211; AIR is a RIA Plattform. Internet is included but &#8211; u don&#8217;t have to be connected as well&#8230; just for updated and for several tasks Titanium will need a connection as well.</p>
<p>&#8220;[...]would be a far superior option, since it would not take us down a route of closed systems[...]&#8221; The security system in air and the sandboxes are there for a reason. Where&#8217;s the sense in hoping for security when plattforms like Titanium open the doors to the system?</p>
<p>Sorry&#8230; i don&#8217;t see any point in what should make A.T. a better option.</p>
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		<title>By: InTheLoop</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator>InTheLoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xavier Colomer - I don&#039;t have anything against closed source applications, but I would prefer that platforms be completely open. The problem with a closed platform is that give up control over a large amount of the software you are running, not just a single application. If Adobe decides to drop support for Linux, what are you going to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xavier Colomer &#8211; I don&#8217;t have anything against closed source applications, but I would prefer that platforms be completely open. The problem with a closed platform is that give up control over a large amount of the software you are running, not just a single application. If Adobe decides to drop support for Linux, what are you going to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Vadim P.</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/12/12/appcelerator-titanium-like-air-but-better/comment-page-1/#comment-1917</link>
		<dc:creator>Vadim P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff: Let me see why... I pre-ordered several programs for Linux now and they were always inexcusably delayed. That&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff: Let me see why&#8230; I pre-ordered several programs for Linux now and they were always inexcusably delayed. That&#8217;s why.</p>
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