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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft&#039;s Biggest Weakness</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Lees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, there could be new OEMs without an existing Microsoft account...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, there could be new OEMs without an existing Microsoft account&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yfrwlf</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/09/12/microsofts-biggest-weakness/comment-page-1/#comment-1451</link>
		<dc:creator>Yfrwlf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often suggest this &quot;tipping point&quot; as well, and usually get laughed at for doing so.  And, hey, maybe there are so many factors that it won&#039;t ever be a tipping point, perhaps it will be gradual though perhaps not linear.  As Bogdan said, now that major OEMs have experience with Linux, it becomes easier and easier for them to push it.  However, Microsoft can start lowering it&#039;s costs for Windows.  So, you may not get a tipping point but a somewhat linear or exponential takeover.  They cannot get rid of Windows completely though for many customers.  Don&#039;t forget all the Windows software which exists which customers still want to use, and Wine isn&#039;t perfected yet (would be really awesome if it was though), but selling to the consumers who just have basic needs and who don&#039;t have massive geeky software collections of Windows stuff is the first step, and that&#039;s the step being taken with the netbooks.

It will only continue to get worse for MS as Linux isn&#039;t going anywhere but up, and there&#039;s nothing they can do about it except try to pour honey on it and spread FUD and anything else they can think of, but sooner or later those beavers will topple them. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often suggest this &#8220;tipping point&#8221; as well, and usually get laughed at for doing so.  And, hey, maybe there are so many factors that it won&#8217;t ever be a tipping point, perhaps it will be gradual though perhaps not linear.  As Bogdan said, now that major OEMs have experience with Linux, it becomes easier and easier for them to push it.  However, Microsoft can start lowering it&#8217;s costs for Windows.  So, you may not get a tipping point but a somewhat linear or exponential takeover.  They cannot get rid of Windows completely though for many customers.  Don&#8217;t forget all the Windows software which exists which customers still want to use, and Wine isn&#8217;t perfected yet (would be really awesome if it was though), but selling to the consumers who just have basic needs and who don&#8217;t have massive geeky software collections of Windows stuff is the first step, and that&#8217;s the step being taken with the netbooks.</p>
<p>It will only continue to get worse for MS as Linux isn&#8217;t going anywhere but up, and there&#8217;s nothing they can do about it except try to pour honey on it and spread FUD and anything else they can think of, but sooner or later those beavers will topple them. <img src='http://www.linuxloop.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Edmundo Carmona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edmundo Carmona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I humbly (that word sounds as fake as a 30-dollar bill in my mouth) think that Microsoft isn&#039;t going to keep up with the pressure GNU/Linux (and the FOSS in general) is having on them. You have to see the faces of people who take a look at my desktop running KDE4+compiz (on Kubuntu Hardy)... they just drool over it. ASUS with its idea of having a &quot;pitty-weight&quot; GNU/Linux embedded in their motherboards... boxes preloaded with GNU/Linux,... I can&#039;t see how they will be able to hold it. Perhaps, the time to say &quot;Free at last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, I&#039;m free at last&quot; is not so close from arriving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I humbly (that word sounds as fake as a 30-dollar bill in my mouth) think that Microsoft isn&#8217;t going to keep up with the pressure GNU/Linux (and the FOSS in general) is having on them. You have to see the faces of people who take a look at my desktop running KDE4+compiz (on Kubuntu Hardy)&#8230; they just drool over it. ASUS with its idea of having a &#8220;pitty-weight&#8221; GNU/Linux embedded in their motherboards&#8230; boxes preloaded with GNU/Linux,&#8230; I can&#8217;t see how they will be able to hold it. Perhaps, the time to say &#8220;Free at last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, I&#8217;m free at last&#8221; is not so close from arriving.</p>
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		<title>By: Bogdan Bivolaru</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/09/12/microsofts-biggest-weakness/comment-page-1/#comment-1453</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogdan Bivolaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually there&#039;s more to it:
So far there has been a prohibitive cost of moving hardware manufacturers and resellers to move to Linux, but once all the big players have entered the netbook market and every single one of them has launch a Linux version of their &#039;nettop&#039; they suddenly gain both the technical and commercial expertise to sell Linux. Linux is no longer the alien of the computing industry.

MacOS X may be the flagship of usability, but its a closed garden, something in a showcase, inaccessible for hardware developers. It will just show OEMs what they can get by moving away from Microsoft software. Linux by itself may or may not be ready for consumers,  but that&#039;s where OEMs can put &#039;added value&#039;. If some Linux distro lacks some facilities there OEMs can make profits: they can provide solutions or provide a marketed experience to its customers.

It will take several years until this wave will make a difference for consumers, but I think and hope that this will happen even before the launch of the next version of Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there&#8217;s more to it:<br />
So far there has been a prohibitive cost of moving hardware manufacturers and resellers to move to Linux, but once all the big players have entered the netbook market and every single one of them has launch a Linux version of their &#8216;nettop&#8217; they suddenly gain both the technical and commercial expertise to sell Linux. Linux is no longer the alien of the computing industry.</p>
<p>MacOS X may be the flagship of usability, but its a closed garden, something in a showcase, inaccessible for hardware developers. It will just show OEMs what they can get by moving away from Microsoft software. Linux by itself may or may not be ready for consumers,  but that&#8217;s where OEMs can put &#8216;added value&#8217;. If some Linux distro lacks some facilities there OEMs can make profits: they can provide solutions or provide a marketed experience to its customers.</p>
<p>It will take several years until this wave will make a difference for consumers, but I think and hope that this will happen even before the launch of the next version of Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxloop.com/2008/09/12/microsofts-biggest-weakness/comment-page-1/#comment-1455</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft is caught between a rock a hard place and a pointy thing.  They&#039;ve had their way for so long they can&#039;t change even if they wanted to.  If they show any sign of weakness to the manufactures they&#039;ve been abusing for the last two decades, their kingdom will implode.  They can only react with more pressure which will, of course, create more ill will.  My prediction is: Don&#039;t blink or you may miss the collapse of the mighty software empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is caught between a rock a hard place and a pointy thing.  They&#8217;ve had their way for so long they can&#8217;t change even if they wanted to.  If they show any sign of weakness to the manufactures they&#8217;ve been abusing for the last two decades, their kingdom will implode.  They can only react with more pressure which will, of course, create more ill will.  My prediction is: Don&#8217;t blink or you may miss the collapse of the mighty software empire.</p>
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